Are there people whom we wouldn't want praying for us?
This question came up a few years ago in a babel building I was attending at the time. At the time, my response was that if the person/people didn't belong to God he wouldn't be hearing them anyway so it really didn't matter. I'm not so sure now. Not more than 3 months ago I had someone tell me they would pray for me. My response, which I didn't vocalize, was don't bother, I'd just as soon you didn't. I'm relatively sure the person wasn't saved, just full of religiosity. He had a way of twisting scripture and is a Joyce Meyer fan, as well as other false prophets. I had been familiar with this man a few years. I thought him to be someone I could fellowship with, when I was a new convert but as I learned more... not so much. I'm just not sure. I'd appreciate input. I just let it slide at the time. Should I have said, "Don't bother"?
I cant remember the verse by heart but it's the one in the Psalms that says the Lord will not hear the prayers of the wicked... Unless they come to the Lord in the broken contrite spirit. So, yeah, you probably should of just said "don't bother" to him. My opinion anyway 😆
Brother Phillip Newton had some videos on this subject if I recall correct, check his channel.
Jeremiah 23:35 Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbour, and every one to his brother, What hath the LORD answered? and, What hath the LORD spoken? - A few verses come to mind when thinking of this topic; some are dispensational, but lets look at them for "instructions in righteousness"
- Proverbs 15:26 The thoughts of the wicked are an abomination to the LORD: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.
- Proverbs 15:29 The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.
- John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.
- Mark 9:38-41 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. 39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a MIRACLE in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. 40 For he that is not against us is on our part. 41 For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.
(If we only know these verses we can conclude that when someone (saved or not) prays for you; It is out of our hands to do anything, but in the Lords hands. If God accepts the prayer; then it would be according to his will and God's will is good for us. If God does not accepts the prayer; then its just vain words in the air and we are none the wiser of it. There are still some verses that I think apply to this topic that we can get more wisdom from though.)
- 1 Corinthians 8:1-13 (Read the whole chapter for context, but im looking at verses 4-6) 4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. 5 for though there be that are called gods, wheather in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
(This verse should give you peace to know that even if a satanist where to say he would pray for you; they have no power because we know that there is none other God but one, the Father, the Lord Jesus Christ. Even if a "witch" plucked off some of your hair and started chanting at you; you could laugh in thier face; give them the verse and say the Lord rebuke thee... again not anything for us to do, but its in the Lords hand, but there are still some verses to look at. Now we look at what are we supposed to do for "conscience sake".)
- 1 Corinthians 8:7-9 Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled 8 but meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. 9 but take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stublingblock to them that are weak.
- 1 Corinthians 10:25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake: 26 for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof. 27 If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake. 28 but if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof: 29 Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience? 30 for if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that which I give thanks? 31 whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
(Now I don't think this is always the case; but some people who are weak in the faith (or no faith at all) want to pray "over" people for pride. Have you ever had another "christian" come to you and the first thing they ask is if there is anything they can pray for; for you? Lets say; for example that in your scenario you 2 have reasoned together over scripture, and you have shown him what the Lord hath said, but he argues with God word. You both have "drawn the line in the sand" and know where each other stand. Now if he has knowledge that you think he is believing in vain, but allow him to pray "over" you; are you not throwing away all that exhortation and Searing his conscience? Now what if his prayer is in accordance to the will of God and God would accept his prayer; I would not want to stop someone who wants to pray for you, but for conscience sake it might be best to say your peace. example: say "Yes you can pray for me if you want and I will pray for you that your heart is unhardened and that you will take heed to Gods word; and we will let God decide to give the blessings so he receives all the glory.")
- Philippians 1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: 24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you. 25 and having this confidence, I know that I shall abide and continue with you all for your furtherance and joy of faith; that your rejoicing may be more abundant in Jesus Christ for me by my coming to you again.
(If God wanted us quiet; he would have taken us home when we believed and if he wanted there to be secrets; he would not have given his Holy Spirit to teach us all things, and bring all things to our remeberance, whatsover he have said unto us. (John 14:26)
1Pe 3:12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
Actually, yes. Charismatics/Pentecostal healers. I have experience.
Some years ago as a lost 15 year old, I was at a Pentecostal camp, and after a service i asked the "pastor" for prayer to heal my paronychia on my right big toe. And he laid hes hand on me and prayed, I cannot remember if he "spoke in tongues" or not, most likely
But when he was done praying......... then instantly my left big toe got the same problems as on the other foot........ maybe i did not have enough faith,
I did not have the same protection as i have now as a saved man. But still, i would not allow prayers from those kinds of people